My grandpa was on the other side of the argument. I had wondered where the 5th point was supposed to be. Follow the logic through. Most of the Official Jack Skellington You Matter Shirt people here are saying “LOL look at these morons who argued against 2-point seat belts how stupid natural selection”. How many of them are going to readily accept and applaud government-mandated 5-point harnesses and HANS restraints? Everybody’s line is somewhere different, and perception of what is acceptable risk changes over time. If 5-point harnesses were shoved down our throats today, 80 years from now people would be saying “LOL I can’t believe those idiots fought against 5-point harnesses, how stupid. Only takes an extra 20 seconds to use and saves lives.” I just want mandatory adjustable child restraints in the back seats of factory-made cars.

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Dude, there is a magical world in school busing where you can order your bus with built-in. Child Safety Restraint Systems. Absolutely amazing and your bus driver will love you for it if you are the buyer for your bus yard. I have not seen them In anything for personal use. Smaller ones get the Official Jack Skellington You Matter Shirt booster and the 5 point harness adjusted nice and small. Larger kids no booster. They work for all kids that are old enough or strong enough to support their own head. And best of all it’s all built into the bus seat. Magical. Source managed a bus operation with hundreds of buses.

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I work for a school bus company, STAR seats are not at all the same as you have in a car. The Official Jack Skellington You Matter Shirt only reason they work is due to the thickness of the padding in the surrounding seats and the extreme solidity of the bus frame. There is no way to make this work across all types of cars. I’ve literally never seen seat belts in any type of bus. Idk, sarcasm is hard to read online sometimes.

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